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  • Jang
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    Thanks. Reassuring. My Babington is looking rather poor too. Perhaps I'll have a gentle exploratory poke around.

  • triffid
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    My Minogue is looking a bit like this right now, and the smaller specimens of Babington & perpetual leeks are the same, i.e. dried down to a little bulb. I believe summer dormancy is normal in these varieties.

  • Jang
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    Thank you. I have to say that my one onion would be a very big cocktail onion. Difficult to tell from my photo but it’s bigger than any pickled onion I’ve seen. 1.5-2 inches across I’d say.

    So the foliage tends to die down in high summer and re-emerge in autumn? Therefore OK to leave it where it is?
    That would be great. 🤞🤞

  • Galina
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    Very big ones get ready to flower, smaller ones do disappear. The top disappears, but the onion is still there. If you dig them up, you see silvery onions under the ground. These are the stage at which they are used for cocktail onions. Later in the year they reemerge. So you should be fine.

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  • Jang
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    My Minogue onion is looking rather sickly with only a little unhealthy looking top growth.
    When I investigated further though, there was quite a large healthy looking bulb just beneath the surface but with no leaves coming from its centre. It doesn't look as though anything has torn a leaf away though; in fact it looks more as though it might be ready to shoot again. But there are also just the four small leaves which I guess. might be coming from the base of the one biggish bulb but look as though they might be on their way out. Sorry it's not very easy to see in the photo, but the head of the bulb is leaning a bit to the left.

    Is this normal development at this time of year? And I'm not sure what the best thing to do is, either now or later in the year.


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  • triffid
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    Aha, I've only just seen the updated comments here. No notifications for some reason.
    But regarding Perlzwiebel, one shouldn't be seeking seeds, but rather bulbs? Know of any source?

  • jayb
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    Brilliant!

  • Jang
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    Great. Double reward and satisfaction.

  • Galina
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    There is a great deal of confusion not just just with taxonomy of alliums, but also with the term Perlzwiebel as you say Triffid. The only reason they are grown from seed Jang, is that another onion altogether has also been given the name Perlzwiebel. This is the silverskin onion, which serves the same function but is the onion that is used in jars of cocktail onions or in gherkins. Silverskins are an annual, just a tiny bit larger, easier to harvest, as they harvest like onions, so they were used in the preserving industry instead of the perennial Perlzwiebel. https://justseed.com/products/unw717...MaAqtTEALw_wcB
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  • Galina
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    Nothoscordum has different flowers and when it came to googling miner's weed I was led a merry dance around narcotics. I also think it is Perlzwiebel aka allium porrum var sectivum just like you said. Which is why when I had my first flower and also growing leek for seeds, I removed the flower to keep the leek pure. Chances are they would have crossed.

  • Galina
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    It was either their first or their second ever potato day. Can't remember. Could go back to old gardening books to check. Google to the rescue. The first was in 1994, so that nails it to within a couple of years. https://allotmentgardening.org.uk/national-potato-day/

  • Galina
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    Yes. Now all crushed to release seeds and also bulbils planted.

  • triffid
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    Brilliant! Does it form seeds and bulbils on the same inflorescence?

  • Galina
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    A long overdue photo. Minogue with top bulbils. Found it today when I wanted to start off from seeds. Turns out those bulbils haven't dried out yet. Happy!

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  • jayb
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    Spot on Galina, there's one tiny Minmogue to the left as well!
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