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I've not seen anything like this colour pattern before, love to know what it is called? I'm guessing it's not really a bip type and nothing else leapt out at me on http://data.jic.ac.uk/pgene/
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No not bip but what on earth? This is pretty amazing Jayb. -
Hope so
Plus fingers are crossed for seed and it is something that can be inherited, really quite pretty.
It was a bit hot and late in the day but I did sneak a little pollen, hope I've not been too greedy.Comment
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Is this offspring from the SF x DBofG/Alderman event?
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Observed that too with Unity, Visionary and Scholar. Where Silverleaf and Jayb shared seeds either from the gene bank or only a generation away.. Visionary was tiny, but now twice the size, Scholar was extremely weak and died early after only producing 3 pods, now a normal pea with lots of pods, still early but robust and lots of peas. And Unity got bigger and stronger too. It is sad when this happens with special seeds. It may just be adaptation, but I guess these seeds were greenhouse grown rather than garden grown. -
What a shame, fingers crossed for the remaining seeds. What had you planned to do with them?
We have too many voles and similar here to plant peas in the autumn, so I have a little envy for those who can. Could you grow them in pots and then if fusarium strikes again it won't be in your poly-tunnel soil?
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I wonder if the plant just has too many things going on and is a bit confused at the moment so to speak? Does anyone know if this can this happen?
I came across a post by R. Fairham (sp?), she has also made a cross of Alderman x Salmon Flowered, but she reports nothing unusual in any of the offspring she's grown (I'll look for the post again and add a link). One thing that has crossed my mind about Salmon Flowered, there may be more than one type circulating under this name, as some flowers pictured are salmony pink and others either pale or quite intense 'pink' from pictures around the forums and blogs.
Edit to add link to Rebsie F. post http://daughterofthesoil.blogspot.co...-x-salmon.htmlLast edited by jayb; 29-07-2021, 14:31.Comment
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It was too many words for the comments, annoying!
Interesting about your beans Galina and very true but if you want to try and replicate it, it's not so good.
I know I'm trying not to jump too far ahead and really if this type of pea flower were possible we would already have them available!
In all honesty, I don't know about Salmon Flowered. I last grew it out I think in 2015 as my seeds were getting older, but whether it was from my saved seed or some sent in a swap I don't know. At the time there was no real reason to think they might be any different from other seeds out there and perhaps they aren't. I often write notes on seed envelopes to go with saved seeds and unfortunately this year I've cleared out a lot of older seeds and packets to cut down and simplify, so I'm unable to check back.
I do have an F1 cross of Salmon Flowered x DBofG growing, I know I wanted to redo this and the Alderman one (but they didn't germinate) to grow them on separately. Again this may or may not be a cross with the same Salmon Flowered line time will tell. I may even have some Salmon Flowered and Alderman growing from a late sowing. I know I wanted to, so I'd have the two crosses from scratch again. will have to check.
I can see why the crown peas were grown for their flowers, I must admit I'm captured by them.Comment
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Yes we did get some in the seed circle too. There is always the possibility to freeze small samples in case they cannot be grown soon, but most peas, especially with non green or beige seeds, last 9 years or longer. Remember Sugar Lord that Goodlife miraculously resurrected after 13 years? -
I hope so and good idea. I'm not sure how many seeds there will be, I've hardly dared look for now. I've been watering daily but the amazing weather we have been having has had a drastic effect on many of the peas, so after the initial flourish for these the remaining buds have not developed.
One thing I did note, not all of the flowers on this plant gave that different pattern, I think it was around 4 or 5. Other flowers looked quite regular? So whether they all have the potential to carry this forward I've no idea. I guess it might depend on if this is bred or mutation.
Salmon Flowered, you don't happen to know if they were from me, that would be so cool if they were?
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Yes I do remember Goodlife's success with Sugar Lord, she was amazing. I sowed seed earlier this year and had a fun time thinking about her lovely ways and advice. You can imagine how disappointed I was when they didn't germinate for me, I suspect I'd badly saved the seed and or poor compost.
Came across my Sugar Lord seeds again and have put some in a jar to sprout, fingers crossed although well late.Last edited by jayb; 29-07-2021, 08:28.
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I forgot to add a few more pics.
The amount of 'different type colouring' was variable on individual blooms and some had none visible. Kind of reminds me of a raspberry sundae.
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Just as a temporary update, I sowed a few seeds as soon as harvested, they grew quite well until a mouse chewed through some stems and the remaining plants although looking and growing well enough just couldn't cope with the short days and low light when they started to flower. They were sad little attempts that didn't open.
So currently I'm hoping to locate these seeds again and sow (mouse protected) a few soon.Comment
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